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Framework 2 - where can I find out more about it? 2 years, 2 months ago #2867

Hi All!

I am re-reading The Magical Approach at the moment. The concept of Framework 1 and 2 (especially Framework 2) is very fascinating to me and I want to learn more about it.
I want to compile a list of references as to where Framework 2 is mentioned in the Seth material, so I can get a full overview of this part of the material.

Any suggestions? Do you remember in what book at which page there are paragraphs about Framework 2? I seem to remember Mass Events having chpaters about it, but has lend the book to a friend at the moment..

And what do you personally think about the concept of Framework 2 and how it connects to Framework 1? In other words - what is your experiences with discovering how reality is created via Framework 2?

Re: Framework 2 - where can I find out more about it? 2 years, 2 months ago #2871

  • multi
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Hi CamWesty !
:hurray


Paul discusses it in several places in this quite long Overview at NWV
(this bit is about halfway down the page)

also search that site for other references

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Thus, “conscious creation” more accurately applies to any modern or postmodern body of work that explores the simultaneous action of involution/evolution in physical, subtle, and causal fields via physical, mental, and spiritual senses.

Modern examples of conscious creation include Vedanta Hinduism and Vajrayana Buddhism. Postmodern examples include the information offered by Seth, Elias, Kris, Rose, Wilber, and others.

Originally introduced in Seth Speaks: The Eternal Validity of the Soul.

Conscious mind – Seth distinguishes three primary qualities of the conscious mind – the outer ego, the subconscious, and the inner ego. Each is fully conscious, aware, and sentient but based upon its own unique order of perception. Seth consistently refutes the idea that anything is unconscious. The outer ego uses outer senses and reason, the subconscious uses outer and inner senses, and the inner ego uses inner senses. Further inward, the conscious mind taps into pyramid energy gestalts. Discussed in detail in The Nature of Personal Reality.

Consciousness units (CUs) – the foundational “causal force” or Primal Cause within All-That-Is; Seth’s metaphor for pure source energy in the causal field. CUs are ubiquitous, faster than light, nested “units” of awareized, not humanized, energy imbued with a propensity for creating gestalts of action, energy, and matter. Their unique characteristics include dreaming and inner sensing. Discussed in detail in The “Unknown” Reality, Vol. 1.

Constructions (Primary, Secondary) – a metaphor used by Seth to explain how the inner ego creates the outer ego, which in turn creates its own perception. The outer ego in the physical field (Framework 1) is a primary construction of the inner ego. The outer ego, in turn, creates secondary constructions through its perception in the physical field. So the "you" who creates 100% of your reality includes the outer and inner ego.

Constructions are also related to Seth’s use of the term camouflage and divine camouflage, and Jane’s idea constructions. Discussed in detail in The Early Sessions: Book 2 of the Seth Material.

Coordinate points – the means of energy exchange between the physical field (Framework 1) and subtle field (Framework 2). There are three kinds: absolute, main, and subordinate. Gestalts of CUs that form into electromagnetic energy units (EEs) that blink on/off beyond the Planck speed – 10(-44). These are the instrumental “black/white holes” that facilitate the actual translation of subtle field source energy – EEs – into physical constructions. In other words, they are key aspects in the mechanics of how we create our physical reality through a psychological, inner “action of translation.” Discussed in detail in Seth Speaks: The Eternal Validity of the Soul.

Cordellas – the inner “organizational units from which ... all [physical, biological, and psychological] alphabets are born.” In other words, they function as communications blueprints for “translating” all source energy from its potential subtle Framework 2 state into physical Framework 1 constructions. These “languages of translation” provide “the inner support for the communications and recognized happenings of conscious life,” including quantum fields, biological life, and human perception.

Cordellas also form the basis for the Sumari trance language. Discussed in detail in Adventures in Consciousness: An Introduction to Aspect Psychology.

Counterparts – simultaneous “reincarnational selves” that share or overlap within the same periods of history. For instance, we can have four or more lifetimes that share this PRESENT/present, and simultaneously four more that may have been born decades before our birth but died in our PAST/present or are still alive, and four more who will be born during our PRESENT/present but continue after we die in a FUTURE/present. This thesis, as Robert Butts called it, further expands how Seth defines reincarnation more as simultaneous multiple incarnations. Seth also hints that there can be temporary counterpart relationships between people that do not share the same entity. Discussed in detail in The “Unknown” Reality, Vol. 2.

Dis-ease – good health is one of our most cherished states of being. If you believe that you create ALL of your reality, then you begin to question the mechanics and purposes of any ill health situation. Dis-ease has many purposes, some of which are restorative to a more balanced state, some initiate the death experience, and some, for example birth “defects,” are for the purity of the experience. If the purpose of experiencing physical reality is to drink deeply of its rich potentials and we experience multiple simultaneous lifetimes, then it makes sense that certain extreme conditions are a pre-birth or involutionary choice of experience, not a punishment from God, bad karma, or the result of natural selection and “bad” genetics.

newworldview.com/library/Helfrich_P_Seth...oncept_Overview.html

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have a listen to some of this guy also talks quite a bit about framework 1 and 2


Cheers
-multi
All Individuals remember their source and now dream of All That Is as It once dreamed of them and they yearn towards that immense source. -Seth
Last Edit: 2 years, 2 months ago by multi.

Re: Framework 2 - where can I find out more about it? 2 years, 2 months ago #2872

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Thanks Multi, for that definition of counterparts. That was very clarifying!
Cynthia

Re:Framework 2 - where can I find out more about it? 2 years, 2 months ago #2875

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Hi There, and welcome to the list!

Framework 2 is discussed in several of Seth's books, as Multi already mentioned.

You could start with:

Dreams, “Evolution,” and Value Fulfillment, Vol. 1 & 2
The Individual and the Nature of Mass Events
The God of Jane: A Psychic Manifesto (An Aspect Psychology Book)

Love,
Mike.
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Last Edit: 1 year, 5 months ago by wolfnowl.

Re: Framework 2 - where can I find out more about it? 1 year, 5 months ago #4932

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Wow, Multi, these definitions are amazing!
I am currently reading UR2 and was wondering about the precise definition of counterparts and yours was very illuminating.
Thank you!

Re: Framework 2 - where can I find out more about it? 1 year, 5 months ago #4963

Thanks Multi for the beuatifully cogent overview and NWV link.

Mosswillow
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